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Tre' Gammage



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EP 185 Magic and Character development with John Abrams

In Episode 185, I had the opportunity to have a talk with John Abrams a Bully Prevention School Entertainment Speaker for 25 years and a professional magician. We talked about his school assembly for elementary school about bully prevention and character. How he pivoted after the COVID-19 hit and continued his passion. He created “28 great Ideas to Bullyproof your School” and reviewed which ideas are working. He stated that we use magic to express how we feel. You can download his free stuff at and follow his podcast. Timestamps 6:15 – Brief Background about John 10:00 – Effects of COVID and how John pivoted 14:00 – Doing magic over the Radio 20:00 – Magic as an Empathetic Arts 24:20 – Life ahead COVID 27:00 – Magic as a byproduct of respect Apple: Spotify:

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