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Raymond Camden on the history of Static, hosting, side projects and more!
Quick show notes Our Guest: Raymond Camden What he'd like for you to see: CodaBreaker.rocks His JAMstack Jams: Jekyll and Netlify His musical Jam: Hatchie Raymond's post about serverless functions and MailChimp from 14:15 Other Tech mentioned HarpJS Zeit Transcript Bryan Robinson 0:00 Hey everyone, welcome to another that's my jam stack episode. Today we've got the pleasure of chatting with a developer advocate who specializes, according to his website, on JavaScript serverless and enterprise cat demos, I'm talking, of course, about the amazing Raymond Camden. Raymond, thanks for coming on the show. Raymond Camden 0:16 Thank you for having me. Bryan Robinson 0:18 No problem. So I guess I'll start this off by tell us a little bit about yourself and kind of what you do for work and what you do for fun and that sort of thing. Raymond Camden 0:25 Sure. So I am a developer experience engineer, for a very large financial firm that is really picky about where I'm allowed to say that I actually work there. So if you're curious, you can go to my LinkedIn and just know that you wouldn't leave home without me. Bryan Robinson 0:47 Leaving breadcrumbs behind you. What What will you do for fun outside of work? Raymond Camden 0:52 Oh, shoot, write code. play a lot of Just Dance. I'm really, really good at it. Trust me, I'm not lying at all. I do some Lego. My girlfriend and I are working on the Death Star II. And we've been working on that for less, like, month or two. And we're on step like 50 of 2000. So it's, it's a process, but it's a fun process. Bryan Robinson 1:19 Nice. I think I think I saw on Twitter a couple weeks ago you were flying with just dance and actually pulling that off in an airplane. Raymond Camden 1:26 Yeah, not not scoring very well. But uh, yes, I did play it on an airplane. Bryan Robinson 1:32 Cool. So I guess what was your entry point into this idea of kind of jam stack or static sites or whatever we want to call it to make sense? Raymond Camden 1:40 Sure. So I've been doing back in work for a very, very long time. I started web development and like 33 or so I did some JavaScript way back then I did some front end work. And if you were if you have been around that long, you know, wasn't quite as fun back then. Raymond Camden 1:59 So I retreated to the back end where you didn't have to worry about browsers and you just output HTML and put it down. I did a cold fusion for about 10 plus years. This was a not a free app server, not an open source one but a very practical one that had a really great community. And I was very privileged and lucky to be in that community for a while. But like for the longest time like that there was a problem that my solution was to throw an app server at it, whether it's cold fusion or NodeJS or PHP or whatever. Raymond Camden 2:35 And back, I think in 2014 or so like 5 or so years ago, I ran across a little thing called harp JS. And it was this idea of a static site generator and I played with it and like a light bulb went off and I was thinking about all the sites I built with cold fusion network dynamic talking to SQL server and like the data was changing, like once a year, and I'm like, you know what, I don't need that anymore. And again, like light bulb moment realizing that it's not 100% solution, but for like a lot of what I built in the last 10 years, this would have covered a good part of them. Bryan Robinson 3:20 Yeah, very cool. Actually, I think, you probably don't remember this now. It's been multiple years probably been like four years. But you spoke at DevNexus. I was actually speaking at DevNexus that year. And I think you gave a talk on static sites that year. Like, more dynamic static sites, you know, via all these different third parties. I guess kind of out of curiosity since that was before JAMstack was even a thing how do you see the the landscape kind of shifting you know, you've been doing this for
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