Kan Europa zich verdedigen zonder Amerika?
https://podcast.npo.nl/file/bureau-buitenland/134093/kan-europa-zich-verdedigen-zonder-amerika.mp3?awCollectionid=feed-24-bureau-buitenland&awEpisodeid=feed-24-bureau-buitenland_episode-134093-WO_VPRO_20308133
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