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Thomas Chatterton Williams: Why the Summer of 2020 Wasn't Inevitable

12/23/2025 • 39 min

Thomas Chatterton Williams joins to discuss his new book, The Summer of Our Discontent: The Age of Certainty and the Demise of Discourse. He argues that the racial reckoning of 2020 was not an inevitable tide of history but a perfect storm of pandemic isolation, polarizing politics, and institutional failure. TCW dissects how mainstream institutions—from the New… Play episode

Quico Toro: "Charlatans Burrow Into Your Life and Don't Leave."
Rob Reiner: "I Just Viewed My Child in Pain"
Jay Jurden: High Profundities Per Minute
Nicholas Wright: When Ancient Brains Meet Modern War
James Clyburn: "The World Would Much Rather See a Sermon Than Hear One."
Mikhail Zygar: From Glasnost Whiplash to Social-Media Smog
Chris Dalla Riva: "Billboard's become a Christmas chart."
Finding the Next Terry Gross with Daniel Oppenheimer
Shadi Hamid: The Left Should Learn to Love American Power
Not Even Mad: Anthony Weiner & John Ketcham
Holiday Suicides: Is That BS? with Sadie Dingfelder
Mark Rowlands on Memory and the Stories We Tell Ourselves
Daniel Zoughbie: The Mightiest Turns an Enemy into a Friend
Mike Pesca on the Vig, the Fix, and the John Goodman Thumb
Funny You Should Mention: Mohanad Elshieky
TJ Raphael on the Liberty Godparent Trap and the Cost of Coercion
Rachel McCarthy James on Axe Murder, Salad Spinners, and the Hat-Brim Line
Daniel Brook & Brandy Schillace: The Sex Expert Who Scared Hitler
Murdaugh Showrunner Michael D. Fuller: Power Metastasizes
Jesse Eisenberg: "Marv Albert Is My Therapist"
Bob Saget & Chuck Klosterman: "I Really Have Become Liza Minnelli"
Henry Winkler & Clint Watts: "Three Little Fonzies and a Trail of Dead Rus…
Abby Phillip: "The Stones for David's Slingshot"
Not Even Mad: Russ Muirhead & Nick Gillespie
Mike Vuolo & Bob Garfield: "Life Is a Flat Pizza Bagel"
Mike on Matt Lewis Can't Lose
Funny You Should Mention: Myq Kaplan
Fareed Zakaria on Revolutions, Backlashes, and the High Cost of Not Fixing…
James Patterson: "My Time Here Is Short. What Can I Do Most Beautifully?"
John Amaechi: "Excellence Isn't Sorcery"
Nicole Gelinas on Crime, Bail, and Mamdani's Vibesy Criminology
David Ignatius on Space Wars, Skepticism, and His Father's Legacy
Katie Herzog Is the Kind of Person Who Googles Recidivism Rates in an AA M…
Not Even Mad: Charles Lehman & Brad Carson
John J. Lennon — "I'm Owning My Sh*t on the Page"
Jon Levy: "We Don't Really Want Authenticity"
Sarah Goodyear and Doug Gordon on Life After Cars
The Good Fight Club, or Good Fight Club?
Funny You Should Mention: Dusty Slay
Sadie Dingfelder on "Hair, Feathers, and the Theater of Disgust."
Colin Woodard: The Federation Is the Fault Line
The Wars Trump Says He Ended, and the One Cheney Began
Matthew Hiltzik on the Craft of Crisis Communications
Mike Pesca on "Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em"
Art Cullen on Iowa's Corn Gospel, Cancer, and Capture
Beth Macy: "When the Local Paper Dies, the Community Follows"
Karine Jean-Pierre: "Independent," Evasion, and the Party She Says Left Her
Steve Hayes & Damon Linker: The Hole Truth
Barista Michelle Eisen on Face Tattoos, Short Staffs, and Union Shots Fired

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