10-20-24 Dan Nichols
https://anchor.fm/s/f7c8dbb8/podcast/play/93290617/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2024-9-20%2F0e36fdee-70f2-18b2-42f0-e8ea26263574.mp3
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