Over de urgentie-discussie met Nina Jurna
https://podcast.npo.nl/file/frontlinie/108902/over-de-urgentie-discussie-met-nina-jurna.mp3?awCollectionid=feed-1135-frontlinie&awEpisodeid=feed-1135-frontlinie_episode-108902-WO_VPRO_20197616
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