The Miserable Metal Mind Podcast episode 25
https://anchor.fm/s/e3274d98/podcast/play/110292001/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-9-27%2F410073392-44100-2-ccc8ece3e67ab.mp3
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