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Ethnicity Hotness Tier List: Peer Reviewed Studies
In this no-holds-barred episode, we dive deep into racial and ethnic dating preferences using real data from OkCupid (the infamous 2009–2014 race & attraction studies), multiracial dater research, and more. We cover in-group biases, why some groups show little same-race preference, the surprising “boost” for certain mixes (like white-Asian), why black women face the toughest odds in online dating, and how media/culture shapes (or fails to shape) what people find attractive. We break down hierarchies in desirability, reply rates, gender differences (women tend to be “more racist” in preferences), and why white men often top the charts while certain groups get penalized. Expect spicy takes on everything from passport bros to fetishization, media “go woke go broke,” and even our own subjective rankings (teased for a future paid video). Episode Transcript: Malcolm Collins: Hello Simone. I’m excited to be here with you today. As people know, we got really scared after having, you know, videos taken down on this channel and potentially having our YouTube throttled. And so I said, I’m not gonna do anything controversial. Simone Collins: Never Malcolm Collins: again. Never again, never again. But at the same time, an interesting question occurred to me. Simone Collins: Okay. Malcolm Collins: Which was, if you were going to create like a tear list of the attractiveness of different ethnic groups, that was objective, oh Simone Collins: God, Malcolm Collins: what would that look like? So I decided to look into this ‘cause I was like, surely somebody has done this before. And what I was really Simone Collins: according to doesn’t just every. Racial or ethnic or religious group look good to themselves? Like, don’t the Amish find Amish people the most attractive, even if it’s like literally they’re, they’re from very similar heritage. You know, just when, when people look similar to you, don’t you, don’t you find them more attractive? Malcolm Collins: Some groups? That’s true. Not in all groups. Is that true? So [00:01:00] we see that in some studies. Ba basically we’ll go through a number of studies. A number of studies will show that most groups have a preference for their own ethnicity. But in other studies most of the more honest ones. And we’re only gonna cover the OkCupid one briefly, because I assume that all of our audience is familiar with that study. Simone Collins: Oh, I’ll cover it thoroughly. I, I can’t really remember. I went through it when it first came out, but OkCupid stopped publishing their research findings pretty early on because they were too spicy. It was too Malcolm Collins: controversial. Simone Collins: I people got too mad. Justified reality hurts. What Malcolm Collins: you will see in those, if I’m remembering correctly, is blacks do not have an ingroup racial preference and prefer people of other ethnicities. Simone Collins: Oh God, I forgot. Yeah, that was Malcolm Collins: bad. That is not found in pretty much any of the scientific studies except for I think like one or two. Speaker 2: Oh s**t, here we go. It’s on. Race, war. Race, war, race, war, race war’s on everybody. It’s going down. It’s going down. After editing this video, I [00:02:00] was wrong. It has sounded in more of the studies than I remembered, and I should point out here. I do not mean that they had a preference for other racial groups. I mean, they had a preference for the white racial group. Speaker 2: Token Forfeit. Whites win. Whites win. Race, war, everybody whites. Malcolm Collins: And I think the reason Yeah. Simone Collins: But there’s a big problem with publication bias when people Malcolm Collins: find Yeah. I would not publish it if my results came out that way. I’d be like, wait. Oh, Simone Collins: nor would I, yeah. Because we’re not crazy. Malcolm Collins: African Americans are racist against African Americans more than other people are racist against African Americans. Simone Collins: Right. Even based OkCupid stopped publishing this stuff, obviously. Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Yeah. We can’t, we can’t have that be widely known. Right. So we’ll get into that. And then what I’m gonna do with you Simone is because I really, you know, don’t wanna do anything offensive, don’t wanna do anything that can get clipped but. You know, at the same time I couldn’t find a good ranking between like Asian groups and between European groups and between Simone Collins: Oh, like Vietnamese to Chinese to Singaporean, to, Malcolm Collins: yeah. I wanna, I wanna get [00:03:00] that up. So you and I are, Simone Collins: oh yeah. I would be really curious, like, do Japanese people think that South Korean people are really beautiful? Malcolm Collins: No. No. So I wasn’t able to do that, but we will judge it. So we’ll go through faces of different asset groups and rate how relative, Simone Collins: you know what, because Malcolm Collins: you relatively attractive they are to each other. Look at, look at the life. Leave her eyes. Look at the Malcolm. What are you doing? You don’t like that. You don’t, you don’t love that. I’m gonna be Simone Collins: okay, let’s go. Malcolm Collins: Right? All right. Overall hierarchy in dating and desirability. I said, so this is an article Taboo or tabular Rasa Cross Racial Cultural Dating Preferences amongst Chinese, Japanese, and Korean international students at American universities. Simone Collins: Oh, oh, that’s an interesting way to do it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Malcolm Collins: Okay. So, there was a clear racial hierarchy that [00:04:00] emerged in the student’s preferences for potential dating partners. Okay. And then of course, it argues, I do not know if I would argue this. Okay. That. That racial hierarchy is there because of influence from US media portrayals, cultural capital stereotypes and parental family experiences. You Simone Collins: probably would say that, ‘cause it would be the only way for you to be like, I didn’t sit, I just think, I don’t, I don’t even think they’re racist. I just think the media is racist to systemic something. Something. Yeah. I think that’s, Malcolm Collins: yeah. Simone Collins: Understandable. Logical. Okay. Okay. Malcolm Collins: Well, yeah, they don’t wanna say, well, my students are racist. Right? Simone Collins: Yeah, yeah. No, they’re a product of corrupt and bankrupt system. But also, I mean, I think it’s, it’s, it is important to note that capitalism kind of speaks for itself. You know, that, that to a great extent. We, we talked about this briefly with DEI, ification of media that you’ll get this go woke, go broke thing when you stop. Yeah. Casting super hot. Protagonists [00:05:00] or you start making video game characters like less sexy. The video games don’t do so well that there actually are forms of like, we’ll say male, male, gay romance that do really well. But it’s only when it’s actually more fetishized. Like when women are like, oh, look at them kiss. Yeah, you, Malcolm Collins: you put gays in Simone Collins: stuff Malcolm Collins: and you make it gay. Nobody watches it. You make Simone Collins: it. Yeah. But if you have like hot women kissing, like, okay, everyone’s okay with it again, Malcolm Collins: right? No, no. Yeah. It’s like, it’s like, you, you, and this is the, the funny thing is gays had such an easy marketing thing here. If you wanted to put hot lesbians and stuff, that would’ve been fine. Simone Collins: Yeah. You Malcolm Collins: could’ve gotten your agenda and not scared away. Simone Collins: Your normal audience. There’s such an easy hack. But my larger point here is that I, I wouldn’t even say that media can effectively manipulate people because in the end. People vote with their feet or their, I guess their eyes when it comes to media. If they don’t like something, they’re not going to [00:06:00] watch it. It’s not going to become influential media. So if you see a certain typecast in media that’s just showing up again and again, and it’s this type of person that’s, because that’s what audiences find broadly attractive. So I don’t think Malcolm Collins: until, until the wokes get their hands on it because, Simone Collins: well, yes, as we Malcolm Collins: pointed out, Simone Collins: but then it doesn’t perform well, it doesn’t, it doesn’t perform economically well. We can’t look Track Malcolm Collins: Academy. Right. So they’re like they could have put hot young lesbians in it. Instead they put fat old lesbians in it. Simone Collins: Oh, dude. Malcolm Collins: And that was not what anybody wanted to see. Not even Simone Collins: the lesbians perhaps. Yeah. Malcolm Collins: To get an idea of, of of, of how much. It’s like they, they literally had a way to sell their agenda. That, that the audience liked. And they’re like, no. Part of the point is that we make the audience upset. Part of the point is taking away the thing that the audience liked. Mm-hmm. We, we actively want the audience to have a, a bad time watching this. Mm-hmm. And, and that is what art is. That [00:07:00] is what artsy is. And so then you get Gay Cowboys eating pudding or Star Trek Academy, right. Where literally it’s free on YouTube and it has like after four days of being up it was at like 139,000 views the last time I checked, which means it gets less fu in four days than our channel does on average. Simone Collins: Yeah. Wait, gay cowboys eating pudding. That sounds adorable. What is this? Speaker 2: independent films of those black and white hippie movies, they’re always about gay cowboys eating pudding. Speaker 3: No, they’re not. Independent films are produced outside the Hollywood system. All the glitz, glamor. Speaker 2: Yeah, you show me one independent family that isn’t about gay cowboys eating pudding. Malcolm Collins: Gay Cowboys Eating Pudding is a joke from South Par
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