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The Indian Extinction Event
India’s population bomb is fizzling out faster than most people realize. Over 5,000 government schools now sit completely empty (zero students!), with numbers surging 24% in just two years — mostly in states like Telangana and West Bengal. We’re diving deep into India’s collapsing fertility rates (many regions already sub-1.5 or lower), why certain ethnic/religious groups are disappearing faster than others, and what this means for India’s future demographics. We compare this to Japan and South Korea’s school closures due to depopulation, bust the myth that “India will outbreed everyone,” and discuss why Indian immigrants in the US maintain stable fertility (~1.6, similar to whites) while resisting aspects of modern urban culture. Topics include: * In-group hiring preferences & H-1B controversies * Cultural isolation that protects against fertility collapse * Nuanced pros/cons of Indian communities in America (safety, values, economic contribution vs. potential downsides) * Nick Fuentes’ recent anti-Indian rhetoric — is it fair, or controlled opposition? * Gender dynamics, arranged marriages, and why some Indian cultural traits help resist “urban monoculture” This is a raw, unfiltered conversation on natalism, migration, ethnicity, and the future of populations. If you’re interested in demographics, pronatalism, or immigration realism — hit play. Episode Transcript: Malcolm Collins: Hello Simone. I’m excited to be here with you today. Today we are gonna be talking about the disappearance of Indians, the, the Indian Ethnic Group of India. I will start with a interesting article here, over 5,000 government schools in India. Sit empty with zero students, 70% in the states of Al and West Bongo. Is this another Simone Collins: Somali fraud problem or what? Malcolm Collins: This, this from the natal subreddit? No. So these are, these are in India. Their schools are sitting empty because of low birth rates, not fraud. Simone Collins: Okay. Malcolm Collins: No, no, not fraud. Just abandoned. Wow. Like that very sad documentary about Korean schools where they had one student left and they were keeping the school open and they were like, it was really creepy because they would like do tours of the school. You know how Koreans are like very obsessed with, but there was Simone Collins: this one kid sweeping up a classroom that only teacher, no, no. Malcolm Collins: The teachers, the staff were like, they kept everything spotless for, for one kid, like all of the classrooms and everything. It’s [00:01:00] like when Simone Collins: Albert King concert Albert died and Queen Victoria like insisted on having his. Breakfast made each morning and all these things set out for him. Like his clothes laid out. ‘cause she, yeah, no, it’s, it’s really Malcolm Collins: weird the way, but it’s a grieving Simone Collins: thing. This is not a function thing, it’s a grieving thing. Malcolm Collins: There’s the Japanese town that ended up replacing all the kids with, with straw dummies. Simone Collins: No, just to make the, what, like one kid in the town feel less lonely. Totally not creeped out. No. Now there’s Malcolm Collins: straw dummies playing on the swings and on Simone Collins: the slide. What if it was just a great troll though? What if they actually really hated kids and they’re like, I, I will terrify idea for you. This Malcolm Collins: kid with some Miyazaki stuff right here. No, this kid’s gonna walk around and, and think their entire generation is turned into straw. Simone Collins: Oh my gosh though again, amazing troll. Like, you know, you’re the grocery store owner, kid starts acting up. Listen kid. You wanna know what happened to the last kid who messed around in my grocery store? Straw man. Malcolm Collins: It literally to me [00:02:00] feels like a Stephen King book or something. You’re kid, kid, you move to this town, everyone else is, all the other children are straw and all the adults act like it’s totally normal. Yeah. Like that’s just Benny. What are you talking about? I would, we need to do that to our kids. We need to take them to that town and then to just be like this. All of those, this is what happens to bad kids in Japan. Stuff that our kids believe about how the world works. They believe in Wingos and, and oh, Simone Collins: Octavian was telling me this morning that he doesn’t think Wendigo are real. He thinks we’re trolling him, but yet Titan was just building new lore last night, asking about, what was it? Creaky man. Creaky man. Yeah, creaky man who lives in a cave that’s pink and purple with maybe some blue. Malcolm Collins: With maybe some blue. She’s not sure, but he is scary. Yeah. And he lives in a pink and purple cave anyway. No. They see what we’re doing and I think that they’re internalizing that. It’s like, oh, we’re like building stories of the family. I’m gonna do that too. But anyway. Simone Collins: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Malcolm Collins: Of the [00:03:00] 10.13 Locke, 1.013 million government schools across India 5,149 have no students at all. And more than 70% of these schools, which reported zero enrollment in the 2024 to 2025 academic year are located in the states of Ngal in West Bengal according to government. Simone Collins: Are people migrating out of them, like due to climate issues? We’ll get Malcolm Collins: to it in a second. Okay. So curious. The broader cat category of schools was less than 10% or zero. Enrollment has also seen a surge according to data shared by the education ministry in Parliament recently. Hmm. The number of such government schools has grown by 24% over the last two years. 52,309 in 2022 to 2023 to 65,054 in 2024, 2025. These schools now account for 6.42% of the country’s government schools. So six oh, like. Six and a half percent of the country [00:04:00] schools are empty. The government said in a written reply to questions, and this has grown by 25% over the past two years by MP P ro. Nobody cares about these names anyway. And the lower TFR southern states of India have returned TFR of Talem NADA of 1.4 Ara Polish, 1.5 ra. Five. These are actually a little high. I got some more updated numbers here. So let’s pull the updated Indian TFR numbers and yeah. And also Simone Collins: for comparison, what percentage of Japanese schools have shut down to declining population and what percentage of South Korean schools have shut down due to declining population? Malcolm Collins: We should know that to continue here. If you look at this map of ignia, then I’m putting on the screen here. Simone Collins: So in Japan, there’s been a decline of less than 20%. But a rough back of the [00:05:00] envelope comparison suggests that the order of 20 to 25% of the school stock that existed a few decades ago has been shut down or consolidated. And in South Korea it’s 30 to 35%. But still it’s impressive that India would even see as much as the 6% decline because the message that that we get is that in India is fine, soon everyone’s gonna be Indian. Like that’s the hugest population. It’s And power Malcolm Collins: also talk about this in the context of like, Nick Fuentes has decided that now Indians are the worst people ever. Simone Collins: Oh boy. Malcolm Collins: Going off about, I think it’s mostly. Simone Collins: Actually, there was something I heard about, it must be due to H one B visas because I think a lot of Americans are just really fed up with them. I don’t think it’s Malcolm Collins: due to H one B visas actually. Really? So I, I think it’s specifically the guy, the Romanian troll TV guy who has a lot of overlap with us in podcast fans. He said recently something that really begun to aid at me and I might do a separate episode on it. Ooh. But he said. Suppose Nick Fuente, like was not [00:06:00] a, a plant designed to sabotage the Republican party. Why does Simone Collins: everyone think he’s a plant? Malcolm Collins: No. Hold on. Hold on. This is where I had always dismissed this in the past. Yeah. And then he said it this way and it completely changed my mind. Okay. Suppose he’s not. Okay. Is there a single thing, and this is called controlled opposition. Is there a single thing, position? Anything that he’s done in, I’d say the past five years, that he would do differently if he wasn’t controlled. Opposition. Is there a single position that he would hold differently? And the answer is when I started to think through it, no. I literally can’t think of a position, a single position that he holds because he’ll do stuff like Glaze Gavin Newsom while attacking JD Vance. And take whatever position he thinks is currently going to be the most. Divisive was in the Republican party. And whenever election season comes around, he’s always really loud about not voting Republican. These are all the things you would expect a controlled [00:07:00] opposition party to do. And we are aware of previous right wing figures who presented themselves as openly racist, who were controlled opposition recently known like it was. Simone Collins: Provably, what I’ve heard is Malcolm Collins: Richard Spencer was confirmed as a controlled opposition. And now he, he’s pushing for Biden as like he had this period, well, I guess we have to Simone Collins: define controlled opposition because we do know for a fact, because of the way that campaign donations are documented in the United States that many. Unviable Republican candidates were backed by Democratic fundraise like, or we’ll say democratic donors in elections because they knew that if an, an overly extreme Republican candidate made it through the primary, they would be too extreme to win over the centrist vote, and therefore the Democratic candidate would win. So the most effective use of Democratic campaign funds would be to fund. A Republican candidate that was too extreme to win a general [00:08:00] election, onl
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