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Behind the product: NotebookLM | Raiza Martin (Senior Product Manager, AI @ Google Labs)
Raiza Martin is a senior product manager for AI at Google Labs, where she leads the team behind NotebookLM, an AI-powered research tool that includes a delightful podcast-on-demand feature called “Audio Overviews.” NotebookLM started as a 20% project and has grown into a product that’s spreading across social media and has a Discord server with over 60,000 users. Raiza previously worked on AI Test Kitchen and has a background in startups, payments, and ads. In our conversation, we discuss: • The origin story of NotebookLM • The future road map for NotebookLM • How Google Labs operates differently from the rest of Google • The development of the “Audio Overviews” feature • Key metrics and growth of NotebookLM • Stories about collaborating with author Steven Johnson • Navigating potential misuse of AI technology — Brought to you by: • Explo — Embed customer-facing analytics in your product • Sprig — Build products for people, not data points • Sidebar — Accelerate your career by surrounding yourself with extraordinary peers — Find the transcript and show notes at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/googles-notebooklm-raiza-martin — Where to find Raiza Martin: • X: https://x.com/raiza_abubakar • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/whatsaraiza/ — Where to find Lenny: • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/ — In this episode, we cover: (00:00) Introduction to NotebookLM (05:43) The genesis of NotebookLM (08:08) Innovative features and use cases (18:52) Building a startup culture within Google (24:28) Expanding user demographics (27:30) The product roadmap (32:18) Other use cases (36:11) Collaborating with Steven Johnson (42:49) Ensuring ethical AI (46:06) Future directions and user engagement — Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com. — Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed. Get full access to Lenny's Newsletter at www.lennysnewsletter.com/subscribe
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