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Penn Badgley, Nava Kavelin, Sophie Ansari



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Meghan & Ryan Trainor

Singer, songwriter (and current queen of TikTok) Meghan Trainor joins us this week to talk about being frenemies with her brothers in middle school, why she’s homeschooling her kids, and how social media stardom has transformed her career. As a special bonus, Ryan Trainor stops by to share about his and Meghan’s podcast, Workin' On It, and how he’s working to overcome addictions stemming from childhood trauma.

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