Oud-NAVO-topman Rob Bauer over WOIII: 'Als Poetin de NAVO wil aanvallen, wordt dat besluit genomen in Beijing' (30 november 2025)
https://podcast.npo.nl/file/wnl-op-zondag/134057/oud-navo-topman-rob-bauer-over-woiii-als-poetin-de-navo-wil-aanvallen-wordt-dat-besluit-genomen-in-beijing-30-november-2025.mp3?awCollectionid=feed-803-wnl-op-zondag&awEpisodeid=feed-803-wnl-op-zondag_episode-134057-WO_WNL_20307916
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