Caspar Veldkamp (minister van Buitenlandse Zaken): 3,5 procent NAVO-norm 'komt links- of rechtsom in Nederland' (15 juni 2025)
https://podcast.npo.nl/file/wnl-op-zondag/125889/caspar-veldkamp-minister-van-buitenlandse-zaken-35-procent-navo-norm-komt-links-of-rechtsom-in-nederland-15-juni-2025.mp3?awCollectionid=feed-803-wnl-op-zondag&awEpisodeid=feed-803-wnl-op-zondag_episode-125889-WO_WNL_20275860
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