Rob Vreeken (correspondent): 'De NAVO heeft Turkije nodig' (29 december 2025)
https://podcast.npo.nl/file/sven-op-1/135408/rob-vreeken-correspondent-de-navo-heeft-turkije-nodig-29-december-2025.mp3?awCollectionid=feed-766-sven-op-1&awEpisodeid=feed-766-sven-op-1_episode-135408-WO_WNL_20313650
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