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Yesh Pavlik Slenk

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Jason Swann’s life turned upside down. Now, he’s saving wild places

When Jason Swann goes hiking, he always takes pictures. It’s important to him to show other Black and brown people that they belong in the wilderness too. Jason talks with host Yesh Pavlik Slenk about how an encounter with the police, a divorce, and job loss led him to a new life as an advocate for racial equity in the outdoors and to a dramatic career change from finance to sustainability.

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