#063 John Pabon: on cutting through the greenwashing BS, a history of sustainability & making it sexy
https://anchor.fm/s/28e34fa4/podcast/play/64007730/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2023-0-25%2F4fb648c4-e0c9-07ec-67e7-8bcda0844222.mp3
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