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NZ rising: how small states could be the winners in the post-Covid global order

China and the US were already scrapping before Covid-19 came along, and now they’re blaming each other for the virus. International relations expert Professor Robert Patman of Otago University explains what’s behind the name-calling – and why the post-Covid global order could favour small countries like New Zealand. Stuff reporter John Anthony breaks down the breakdown of Air New Zealand. And Adam waits for a courier package. Links: Click here for every episode of Coronavirus NZ. Full Stuff coronavirus coverage Eugene on Twitter; Adam on Twitter Support Stuff Plague Playlist: Lanigan’s Ball, Covid-19 style, by Cyril Dermot’s brother Ryan Our email: viruspod@stuff.co.nz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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