Coocoo, python and a Whitestone.
https://anchor.fm/s/1263141c/podcast/play/39544601/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fproduction%2F2021-7-30%2F215564238-44100-1-930db923abf36.m4a
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