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John Fram - The Bright Lands

Adam Vitcavage is joined by John Fram to discuss his debut book The Bright Lands. We discuss being an outsider, writing modern noirs, and police brutality in media. Please read his New York Times piece "How White Crime Writers Justified Police Brutality" here: Please consider donating to an organization that helps fight tyranny in America of your choosing. I'm choosing to highlight the Okra Project, is a collective that seeks to address the global crisis faced by Black Trans people by bringing home-cooked, healthy, and culturally specific meals and resources to Black Trans People wherever we can reach them. Visit them at Follow the author: Thank you to Rocky Collin for letting me use their song "What Is It" for this podcast. Follow the band at Follow Debutiful and check out the website for more interviews you can read:

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