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Bryan Lowder, Jules Gill-Peterson, and Christina Cauterucci take on the trans queenpin musical of our nightmares

Bryan, Jules, and Christina take on the troubling transphobia in Emilia Pérez, the movie that has received 13 Oscar nominations this awards season. They explore why it’s heavily nominated in this political climate. They also unpack the backlash to the film and the backlash to that backlash, exploring why some defend Emilia Pérez despite its flaws. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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  A Postlude for 'When We All Get to Heaven'

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  10: AIDS Isn’t Over | When We All Get to Heaven

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  9: AIDS Energy | When We All Get to Heaven

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  8: Conversion | When We All Get to Heaven

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  7: Dress Rehearsals | When We All Get to Heaven

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  Interlude: Tired of Dying | When We All Get to Heaven

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  6: Attacked | When We All Get to Heaven

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  5: Healing Without a Cure | When We All Get to Heaven

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  4: Friends in the Fire | When We All Get to Heaven

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  3: “A Church with AIDS” | When We All Get to Heaven

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  2: A New Gospel for Gay Sinners | When We All Get to Heaven

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  Making ‘When We All Get to Heaven’

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  1: Setting The Table | When We All Get to Heaven

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  Introducing: When We All Get to Heaven

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  From What Next: Trans and Shut Out in Trump’s America

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  From Hit Parade: The Hidden History of Queer Pop Icons Pt. 2