Shawn Ryan, CIA Contractor and Former Navy Seal
https://anchor.fm/s/10907e0a4/podcast/play/107862240/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-8-5%2F406928516-44100-1-f703cbd08444d709.mp3
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